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donderdag 27 oktober 2022

Garrido Guitar from 1977 (Probably Vicente Perez Camacho built!)


Guitar distributed by Casa Garrido in Madrid, Spain, 
Garrido worked with several builders from different parts 
of Spain, such as Ricardo Sanchís, Juan Estruch, Modesto 
Borreguero, Telesforo Julve, among others, it is the history 
of Spanish lutherie. It is a solid wood guitar with a good 
and authentic Spanish construction. Wood: Solid cedar 
soundboard. Sides and back solid rosewood, with long 
drying time. The marquetry details are of the time, beautiful. 
The sound is vintage, very versatile, you can see the 
personality that this builder put in his guitars, very com-
fortable and light to play The condition is good, it shows 
hardly signs of use. Scale: 657 mm. Width nut: 53 mm.
It is to be noted that a Vicente Camacho labelled guitar
on the site of Vintage Guitar World has exactly the
same scale: 657 mm. That guitar is also from 1977. Odd
thing is that in both guitars the date has been stamped.
NOT FOR SALE.


A beautiful rosette but difficult to determine wether
if this is the work of Vicente Camacho as he made
a big variety in rosette designs.


Every picture can probably tell us more about this
high quality guitar, but who was the builder? Anyway,
the cross bar, Vicente Camacho used in his guitars is 
present in this guitar as well as the long and flat 
horizontal brace under the bridge. Inner woodwork 
is of a high quality. Furthermore the soundboard
has been provided with a 5 piece fan bracing.


A cedar topped guitar in the Madrid tradition of that 
time, initiated by Jose Ramirez III. This soundboard
really resembles the soundboards used on the 1A 
model of Jose Ramirez in that it is narrow grained
and shows medullary rays that gives it a kind of
silky pattern. Vicente Camacho didn't use the 665
mm scale that much, popular at that time in Madrid.
The own frequency of the soundbox lies quite low:
on a F# which means around 92,5 Hz.


         Garrido appears to be a retail store brand with the store in 
Madrid, Spain. Came across this brand on eBay – a purported 
1960s classical guitar (Brazilian Rosewood) labelled Garrido with 
an association with the luthier Modesto Borreguero. According 
to Acoustic Guitar Forum, Modesto Borreguero set up his own 
workshop in 1952 and worked exclusively for the dealers Casa 
Garrido in Madrid. He also taught the now retired maker 
Vicente Perez Camacho (b.1928). 
Borreguero (b.ca.1893 in Madrid) retired from guitar 
making in 1963 and he died in 1969.





Garrido Classical guitars have a long tradition of construction 
in Spain, and the first units in 1955 soon became a quality 
standard within its mid-range guitar segment. Nowadays, Garrido 
guitars have construction and sound at the best price. See: 
This information comes from the Jedistar site. Not
entirely correct as the second label here attests Casa
Garrido being already present in 1953 and possibly
even 1952.

Though Casa Garrido sold guitars in different price 
ranges, this guitar can be considered "Concert Quality". 
Camacho built even more elaborate models with lots 
of ornamentation.

As for the address, Casa Garrido was situated:
Desengano 2 - Valverde 3 are both in a way mentioned
to be the workshop of Modeste Borreguero. Both Vicente
Perez Camacho as Modeste Borreguero sold their guitars 
to the Garrido music shop in Madrid.



Nicely shaped head with a topnut that is fine tuned.
The headform definitely points towards Vicente 
Camacho as a luthier. Also the rather wide sleeves
can be considered a Camacho trademark as is the 
rather flat inner tongue.


No damage on the top of the head which often 
occurs when placing a guitar against a wall. The
often used ebony reinforcement strip in the neck
can be studied here as well.


This guitar must have been stored by a collector as 
there are hardy any traces of normal use on this guitar. 
Therefore the frets are still in a like new condition.


The wood remains a bit questionable to me as it has an
orangy character here and there that reminds me of Brasilian 
rosewood. The cedar top anyway can be compared with the 
first grade quality Jose Ramirez III uses on his 1A concert
instrument. Very fine grained.



The slanted bridge tie block can be studied here.


General information about Vicente Perez Camacho:

Vicente Perez Camacho was born in Madrid in 1928. 
Like so many guitar makers of his epoch he apprenticed 
first as a cabinet maker, beginning his working life 
when he was eleven. In 1952, he decided to apprentice 
with Modest Borreguero (1901-1969, one of the famous 
guitar makers to come out of the Manuel Ramirez 
workshop, who he had known since 1943. Vicente worked 
in Borreguero's small workshop on the Calle Desegano 
No 3 until he decided to open his own workshop in 1959 
on Amparo No 3. During the 1960s Vicente sold his guitars, 
as did Borreguero for some years, through Garrido, one 
of the major music stores in Madrid for many years. 
Vicente retired in 1992.  This could be one of those sold 
through Garrido. It bears the stamped Casa Garrido label 
A choice of maple is not as unusal for flamenco as it might 
appear. Until the 1930s, maple was the top choice for a fine 
flamenco guitar, and only fell out of favor because during 
the depression, few could afford it and local cypress was 
much cheaper. There are not any cracks repairs or issues. 
The guitar still has its' original lacquering: the finish is 
flawless. Mechanical tuners (probably Fustero's) appear 
to be original.

A post by someone who owns a Vicente Camacho guitar.

Actually I do have a V. Camacho made in 1975, cedar top, Indian rosewood 
back and sides. A very nice guitar, 66 cm, rather light (much lighter than the 
Ramirez 1a of this time, and also less weight than most other guitars that 
I know - except for some flamencas). The 5 fan-style braces look quite 
usual, with a long and flat horizontal brace under the bridge, but a diagonal 
asymmetric harmonic bar (less diagonal than in the Ramirez), starting and 
ending at ribs. The head shape is quite special (like Santos but with a 
"Ramirez" tip in the middle), and the rosette (individual, never seen another 
one exactly like this) has the Madrid colours (red, green and black wood) 
and it is repeated on the bridge. The label is dated, signed and stamped, 
and the sound board is stamped again on the inside close to the bridge. 
Clearly individual work, and the man was proud of his product. 
Concerning the sound, it is suprisingly loud, but lighter and clearer trebles 
than the Ramirez of this time that I know. Lots of overtones, beautiful 
harmonics, well balanced, especially the basses are not too loud, but present. 
I cannot compare with any other guitar that I have. Also, it is easy to play, 
because of the nice neck (width 52 mm at the nut). 
This is indeed one of my favourite instruments.

Vicente Camacho designed a cross-braced system for the guitar top that produces a loud and clear tone even in small body guitar. The tone is well balanced and projects really well. If you have heard El Trio Los Panchos, you will recognize the sound. Camacho’s guitars are also famous because they were one of a kind piece of art. Every single part was made by the luthier, except the machine heads. His rosettes looked similar to each other but were different. The design matches the bridge. None of his guitars is equal to another. He made small scale guitars by demand. He used spruce, cedar, Indian and Brazilian rosewood mainly.

Among his collectors are Angel Romero, Peter Capell, Emma Martinez, Greg Lake, Pepe Vergara and Ramon Villar.

Camacho was very well known in London, where his guitars were sold by the London Guitar Studio. An interview with Vicente Camacho was published by Classical Guitar Magazine in July 1986.

Some of his guitars have Garrido brand on the sound hole label (circa 1960s) as he sold his guitars fro many years through this Madrid store.


From the Zavaletas Site:

In 1952, Borreguero moved his workshop to Desengaño No 4, and began to build exclusively for the music store Casa Garrido. There he also took on the training of Vicente Perez Camacho, who went on to become a noted luthier. He also taught a young Felix Manzanero how to French polish, a skill that allowed Manzanero to enter Jose Ramirez III workshop as an apprentice.


VICENTE CAMACHO

Vicente Pérez Camacho nació en Madrid en 1928. Como tantos guitarreros de 
su época, primero aprendió cómo ebanista, comenzando su vida laboral a los 
once años. En 1952 comienza como aprendiz de Modesto Borreguero. 
Vicente trabajaba en el pequeño taller de Borreguero en la calle Desengaño Nº 3 
hasta que decidió abrir su propio taller en 1959 en el Amparo nº 3. 
Durante los años 60 Vicente vendió sus guitarras, al igual que Borreguero durante 
algunos años, a través de Garrido, una de las tiendas de música más importantes 
de Madrid. Vicente se jubila en 1992.
Translation:

VICENTE CAMACHO

Vicente Pérez Camacho was born in Madrid in 1928. Like so many guitar players 
of his time, he first learned how to become a cabinet maker, beginning his working 
life at the age of eleven. In 1952 he began as an apprentice of Modesto Borreguero.
Vicente worked in the small Borreguero workshop at 3 Desengaño street until he 
decided to open his own workshop in 1959 at 3 Amparo. During the 1960s Vicente 
sold his guitars, like Borreguero for some years, through Garrido, one of the most 
important music stores in Madrid. Vicente retired in 1992.


Manuel Adalid 

This luthier sometimes used labels that were mentioning Casa Garrijo - Madrid.  
To my opinion it must also point towards the Casa Garrido company described 
here above!

A remark around this guitarrero made by Siegfried Hogenmueller:

"Did you know, that in the 60es of the past age he had worked  for Hernandez y Aguado 
from time to time? And, as he has learned most from Modeste Borreguero, it could be 
realistic, that MB advised his later student to collect experiences from HyA." (With 
many thanks to Mr. Hogenmueller for this contribution.)


The guitar in France:

They all came with their Spanish guitars and the first Ignacio Fleta guitars 
showed up in Paris in 1955 in the hands of Sierra and Cueto. They were im-
mediately greatly admired and gradually caused the guitars of Torres, Manuel 
Ramirez, Esteso, Simplicio, Garcia, etc. to be put back in their cases. Other 
makers, such as Conde Hermanos, Mateu, Vicente Camacho, Arcangel 
Fernandez and De la Chica, found a place on the French market where they 
sold hundreds of their instruments.


vrijdag 21 oktober 2022

Juan S. Rivas Guitar



This guitar received a label: Juan S. Rivas Model 7.
There is not much to be found about these guitars
apart from that they possibly could have been built 
by the Alhambra company and that their model 7
in fact is the same guitar. Ceder top and rosewood
sides and back, both solid. Ebony fingerboard.
SOLD.


Both lacquering process as the inner woodwork are of  
a high quality. Same can be said about the sound and
the balance in this instrument. Good tuners and a firm
tone with lots' of volume. In that sense factory made
guitars can sometimes be surprisingly good. This is
one of them.


Reinforced neck with an ebony strip. It is reputable
however wether if it works to prevent any deformation
of a neck in the near future.
























These tuners are the typical Alhambra tuners I also found 
on another guitar from this company. When you click 
on this picture you might discover the Alhambra prefix
"A". which is a sign of one of their products.




vrijdag 16 september 2022

Francisco Esteve: Model ELEC 1989 (with cutaway)


        

This particular model has been built by master luthier
Manuel Adalid in collaboration with Francisco Esteve.
It is the top of the line electric cutaway guitars in their
collection. All solid woods and acoustic a really
surprising tone. Solid Indian rosewood sides and 
back, a cedar neck that is provided with an ebony 
fingerboard. This is a cedar topped guitar and so is
its' sound. Scale on this guitar is 655 mm. 
Price 1200,- SOLD.


The back of the neck has been reinforced with an ebony
layer. The outer heel on this guitar was still more rounded
as the later examples that also have another bridge.


Not the most expensive Fustero tuners but they work 
surprisingly well. I've had the same ones on an Antonio
Duran Concert guitar so "good company"!


Clearly visible is the ebony fingerboard and the finely
executed binding. For better playability the neck has been
refretted and before that the fingerboard was shaved off a 
bit towards the head in order to get a better angle over the
bridge bone and a better tone and playability!


The later ELEC models have an ebony bridge which is beautiful
but in fact a bit too heavy. On this guitar, that has been imported
in England by the Juan Teijeiro Music Company, the bridge is 
executed out of Brasilian rosewood. Only in small characters
the name of Francisco Esteve has been mentioned on the label
though it clearly says: ELEC and has been dated 1989.
When you order this guitar, the electronics that are OK
will be delivered separately as I wanted to know how this
guitar would sound without the under saddle pick up that 
has a negative influence on the sound to my believe.



Recent development was the adding of a 12 hole bridge which
makes mounting strings much easier and moreover gives a better
angle from the strings over the top gof the bridgebone. And if
you want to know more feel free to contact me. Also after the 
sale I will be ready for you the solve problems on your guitar.
Is the guitar not to your satisfaction for serious reasons 
(hidden shortcomings) you will get your money back.


Of course there are some traces of use here and there 
and people have to know that as well besides other
things such as a not straight soundboard, a neck with 
too much relief, a bridge that might come off, broken
rollers what often happens on older guitars as the
metal in the roller expands and as a result the plastic
surrounding cracks. In this Blog Greatguitarsshop
you can also find all things to inspect when you buy a 
second hand guitar. Here a kind of burn mark is 
detectable on the back of the head. How someone 
is able to cause that remains a question...


The front of the head is in pristine condition and the
new added topnut can be admired here. The small 
damage on the back is only cosmetically.



Want to know more around this brand and in general
about the Valencia made guitars, just check this site:
www.guitarrasvalencia.wordpress.com

donderdag 7 juli 2022

Oscar Teller 8 / P Concert guitar (1971)

                                                                     

This is an Oscar Teller Classical guitar from 1971. 
One of their highest models then. Fairly well played!
The P in the model number stands for Palissander
(Rosewood) while an A stands for Ahorn (maple) Most 
significant detail is that Mason Williams recorded his 
nr. 1 hit in the United States on a "Cordova" branded 
guitar: "Classical Gas" that came from the Teller factory. 
As Spanish names sold better there for that reason it 
was labelled otherwise.... Price: € 1500,-

                                                                   

OK. The guitar needs some restorations but all in all
it can be done and a lot of things will be more cosmetic:
Some loose bindings, partly lost. It has all been solved.
Scale of this instrument is 650 mm. The own frequency
of the soundbox is G# so 104 Hz.



The label, always with the model, year of manufacture and
production number, visible on the next picture.


And a registration number as is there on this label.
The model 8 / P is still in production and lists for
2850 Euro's. Alas, not exactly the same as the old 
ones. The 10 P Exclusive is the upper model now 
that is on their pricelist for 4.900 Euro's. That model
is provided with Brasilian rosewood back and sides.

                                                   

The back has some disturbing damage but only in the 
lacquer so it will be no problem to fix that properly.


The same thing counts for the soundboard. No cracks 
but a bit unrespectfully treated by its' former owner.
Most likely this guitar comes from a music institute
were they provided their teachers with a better model
guitar to give their lessons on.


Here the Rubner mounted tuners can be seen. Good quality
but a better fit is needed to have them work more smoothly.


A nicely decorated head, probably inspired by the way
the Japanese luthiers worked at that time and were success-
ful with it. A good cut topnut anyway. The front has been
veneered with an ebony layer.


The Rubner company also made cheap tuners that in fact weren't 
bad at all. These are the more deluxe tuners that match the further
quality of this guitar.


An inner Spanish heel and nice inner woodwork as can be
expected from a German company existing that long. They
were in fact a violin builders family.


The rough treatment not only resulted in various needless
scratches but also a (repaired) crack in one side and an
open crack alongside the gluing surface of back and
sides. Some extra inlay work will be needed.


And what a few hours work will do!


Unfinished yet but the possibly polyurethane lacquer 
has been removed here. A nice piece of wood! And
possibly be able to vibrate in a better way with a 
some layers of a more modest lacquer.


By relaquering the back, head and neck some dings and 
scratches can be cured and these layers are giving the 
guitar a smooth feel again.


A closer look here of the refinished back


The front that hasn't been treated. I left it the way it 
came to me. A guitar may have its' history


These typical inlay in the ebony head layer can be found on 
two high end models from the Oscar Teller company in the
past. Mason Willams plays his number 1 hit "Classical Gas"
together with Deborah Henson Conant (Harp) on this model
guitar. Above all, a very nice musical meeting!


The tuner knobs have been riveted as was usual also
on the Spanish "Fustero" tuners of that time. I recently
got an e-mail from the Rubner company in which they 
claim them not to be from their company. The Schaller
company could be the other option of course.